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Science and God
by Thomas H. Hunkele Columnist
Jun 22, 2010 | 1045 views | 9 9 comments | 16 16 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Science (more appropriately, some who embrace science as the “only”) oft reaches out rejecting God’s existence. Yet the more science reveals, the more discovered, the more obvious it becomes what is – is God. Within “black holes,” beyond the “event horizon,” what we understand as time, space and matter are pulled apart. Once pulled apart, all merge into a “singularity” where all cease to exist as they once were.

They become so to speak “incorporated” – they are immersed into the “one,” seemingly outside of existence. The “known” becomes indescribably “unknown.” Science and God merge.

The “singularity” is where what we understand embraces the incomprehensible – where time and space collapse – where what “is” reverts to what “cannot be.”

I propose that if there is a “scientific” way to describe God, it is this: God is the sole “singularity.” For from God comes all, all is sustained by God, all returns to God. To those of “science only,” I ask, is this not the truth: in the beginning was the “singularity.” From it emanated all time, space and matter. From that “singularity,” all things came into being. Hmmm – perhaps the author of Genesis wasn’t far from the scientific “truth.”

We live our lives on several “stages.” For some (perhaps most), faith plays a role in life. For some (perhaps the few), God is rejected, faith pushed aside. And yet for both, hope and love are zealously pursued. For me, the comparison of the “singularity” to God helps to shine light into the darkness (the unknown) as I struggle to understand the nature of God. I know I can never fully know or understand God – gee, I have a difficult enough time trying to accept my responsibility to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and “love my neighbor.” Could be once I fully understand the magnificence of “love,” I’ll begin, just begin, to understand God.

God is so much more than is revealed in any “text,” in any set of “commandments” or bound up in any set of “house rules” being proposed as the “only” way. Without a doubt, I know this: what is – is God, what was – was God, what will be – will be God. Humankind, in its desperate quest to understand life, has placed all of our limitations on God: our desperate quest to feel superior, to claim dominance over nature, to assert ones faith as the “only” true faith. In essence, we limit God - reducing God from divine to just “above” human. We make God like us – how profoundly sad is that?

Life and perception have taught me this: when science reaches its limits of understanding, it bends to this truth: “At this level everything we know leaves us in the dark – with more questions that answers.” When religions reach the limits of their understanding, they bend to this truth: “All religious houses are built by mankind, most predicated on their ‘select and limited’ understanding of God’s love for all creation.” Therein lies the primary problem with both science and religion. They both, in essence, either bend or retrofit to their liking the incomprehensible Majesty that is God. Know this, science and religion aside – God loves you.
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Anonymous1520
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July 04, 2010
You keep preaching a false doctrine and we will see where that gets you.

Like Ive said in every post here give me scripture to back your claims of the perverted religion you are preaching then we can talk. But once again you completely fail to do so.
Hunk
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July 02, 2010
Dear Anonymous1520…

Oh heck, I really desired to have adult dialogue.However, it requires a basic level of literacy, intelligence, and education for two adults to “dialogue” - - apparently you’ve miss the boat.

I leave you with this: many like me will continue to lift up, bring hope and peace to those who enter our path - - you on the other hand, will continue to isolate, condemn and tear down. I am so sorry you’ve embraced the “age old crusade” of isolation and anger,in that embrace one never comes to know the Majesty that is God...

In essence we can’t have dialogue, but I will see you someday - - and when we meet in the light of God, I’ll be holding hands with Jews, Muslims, Hindu’s, Buddhists, Christians,

and even those who failed to accept the existence of God in this life - - for there is no limit to the love, forgiveness and compassion of the One…

Adieu 1520, Adieu...

Anonymous1520
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June 30, 2010
Well hunk give me something scriptual to back your claims and then we can have a dicussion.

Also your "ministry" is leading people to hell everyday if you are preaching another way to salvation than the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. So keep doing what you are doing but their blood will be on your hands.
Hunk
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June 29, 2010
Anonymous1520…

Throughout my twenty-seven years of ministry I had been obligated, by protocol and eventuality, to “listen to” and “interact” with those of limited religious education, a punishment-centered sense of salvation, and a bigoted “unbending” grip on the concept of God.

Your concept not only limits the Majesty of God – you limit God’s compassion, love and adoration of the universal creation (which, my dear you are part of). Like most who hold dear to their hearts bigoted views - you assault the character of God’s compassion (and limit the sacrifice of Son) when you place the shadow of human ignorance and isolation on a person with a statement like “You will pay for that decision at a later date”…

How incredibly sad it is that many, like you - condemn a world of wonderful people, especially the innocent – the children, to eternal separation and suffering because they have found God – the same Majestic God, in a different house than yours.

I embrace intelligence, literacy, history and education - I am profoundly aware of the “damage” or “good” religion can do. Religion author’s two “states of being”: “hate” or “love”. Hate is surrounded by darkness, filled with isolation, self-centered pride, anger, illiteracy and self-justification in the tearing down of others. On the other hand, Love is founded in light, embraces education and literacy, compassion, forgiveness and acceptance, and the lifting up of others. Fact: love is much better than hate.

If I know that as “fact” – how much more does God understand the binding-up of hate and the freedom of love? God does not condemn humanity does – God does not justify war humanity does - - God does not sustain or perpetuate hate - humanity does. You my dear Anonymous totally buy into “humanity”. How sad…

Oh, by-the-by - - if you are so sure of your concepts of “God” – why not use your real name? Come on sweetheart – come “out of the closet”… 1520 – does that relate to 1st public burning of books in Netherlands, in Louvain?

jopar
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June 28, 2010
anonymous1520: Your thinking has been the basis for religious wars for millenia, you've had your shot, it failed.

The war between science and religion was always contrived by the church.There is no conflict except that science deals with facts and is subject to change and religion deals with fables and prides itself on infallibility which ,of course leads to hurt feelings on the part of true believers.
Anonymous1520
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June 25, 2010
You are both wrong

For TT- God is real now whether you accept that fact or not is immaterial. You will pay for that decision at a later date.

For Hunk- It's one thing to believe in a god. It's a whole different thing to believe in the God of the universe. John 14:6 Jesus says "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." All this universal spirtuality where people believe there is more than one way for a person to be justified in the sight of God is hogwash. Just another sign of the times as the Bible describes the church of Laodicea

Hunk
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June 23, 2010
Dear Tomatotooth (email me with your real name so we can dialogue)…

Hey “TT” there is a God – wonderful and majestic. The problem (the belief in the existence of God) comes into being when we wrap God in human characteristics and emotions, when we “limit” God to a “savior”, a “loving father”, or sadly – our “judge and punisher”. As I’ve said: “I can never fully know nor understand God” – however, that limitation in fact “opens” possibility for me.

Science bends to truth, religions will eventually bend to truth - - life will be tempered by our realization that all things come from one source, are sustained by one source – and, in the end (whatever the “end” is) – returns to that single source. When we discover what that source (creator & sustainer) is we will give it a name - - why not God?

The same evidence that “provides proof” of science - - logically, provides proof of God - - since (as I understand it) science and God are inseparable. The sole “Singularity” (keep in mind science hasn’t a clue what the “singularity” is) is the source, both the sole and soul source.

Bottom line is this - I am filled with joy and hope when someone says they have found God – and in that finding, they have found peace. Life – secular or religious – carries enough dismal days – why take away someone’s peace. Yes, I know it is a two-way street - - and those that condemn others in the name of “god” are just as sad as those who would take away someone’s love of God.

You are right – I am right – and Science and God are one.

Tom Hunkele – tomhunkelecft@hotmail.com

jopar
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June 23, 2010
A scientist can certainly be spiritual and maybe even likely to be.The world is wondrous.It's the denominational, my way or the highway stuff that no thinking person can embrace.
tomatotooth
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June 22, 2010
There is evidence that science exists, but there is no evidence that god exists. God is imagined to be all-knowing-powerful-loving. With all of the suffering in the world, god is clearly not all knowing, all powerful, or all loving. Either he does not care, or he does not exist. So, why call anyone god?

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